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Sabin1989
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 04/12/2018 : 11:54:55 AM
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Origin Ver. and Service Release (Select Help-->About Origin): Pro 2018 SR1 b9.5.1.195
Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit
Hi!
I need to plot data in a ternary diagram WITHOUT any normalization.
Judging by the online help info, this is not straightforward with Origin for reasons I fail to understand.
I would be grateful for any suggestions on how to deal with this.
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arstern
USA
237 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2018 : 12:35:03 PM
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Hi,
Please see the notes section in Origin Help: https://www.originlab.com/doc/Origin-Help/Ternary-Graph
If your data does not normalize, Origin will provide a pop-up window asking you if you want Origin to Normalize or not normalize your data. Select No to plot the ternary diagram without normalization.
The pop-up window should look like this:
Thanks,
OriginLab
Aviel
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Sabin1989
United Kingdom
5 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2018 : 07:21:06 AM
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Dear Aviel,
Many thanks for your reply!
I did select "No", but my data was still normalized.
Also, in the online help, it is stated that:
"And if you choose “No”, Origin will also normalize the input data and then plot, but the original data in the worksheet will not be changed."
To me, this makes it sound like it's not possible to plot without some normalization, and I don't understand why that should be the case.  |
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greg
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2018 : 5:55:25 PM
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By definition, a ternary plot represents the fraction of a whole (0 to 1) or percent (0 to 100) of each of three variables. Therefore, every row should add up to 1 or 100. If this is the case, Origin just plots. In all other cases, Origin will normalize the data and plot or leave the data alone and plot a normalized version of the data.
There is no hope!
(But I may be wrong.) |
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Hideo Fujii
USA
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Posted - 05/03/2018 : 3:42:15 PM
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Hi Sabin,
Greg is right - The idea of the Ternary plot is to show the ratio of 3 components;
But, this doesn't mean you cannot "map" the ratio to the other linear scale.
That is: X: 0 <=x <=1, Y: 0<=y<=1, Z: 0<=z<=1 , and
X': x1<=x'<=x2, Y':y1<=y'<=y2, Z':z1<=z'<=z2
then, x'=x1+x*(x2-x1), etc. You can do this mapping manually, but you can also run the following script (from
XYZ 3-column worksheet):////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
If(wks.ncols!=3) {type -b Your worksheet should have exactly 3 columns; Return;}
wks.colsel(1,0); wks.colsel(2,0); wks.colsel(3,0); //Clear highlighted columns
max1=max(col(1)); min1=min(col(1));
max2=max(col(2)); min2=min(col(2));
max3=max(col(3)); min3=min(col(3));
Xmin=prec(min1,6); Xmax=prec(max1,6);
Ymin=prec(min2,6); Ymax=prec(max2,6);
Zmin=prec(min3,6); Zmax=prec(max3,6);
gtyp$="Line+Symbol Scatter Line";
igtyp=1;
getN
(Graph Type) igtyp:gtyp$
(X Axis Range) :@G (X From (<$(min1,*3))) Xmin (X To (>$(max1,*3))) Xmax (-) :@G
(Y Axis Range) :@G (Y From (<$(min2,*3))) Ymin (Y To (>$(max2,*3))) Ymax (-) :@G
(Z Axis Range) :@G (Z From (<$(min3,*3))) Zmin (Z To (>$(max3,*3))) Zmax (-) :@G
(General Linear Ternary Plot); //Ask axis ranges
worksheet -a 6; //Add 6 columns
col(4)=(col(1)-Xmin)/(Xmax-Xmin); //Maps X to 0-1 range
col(5)=(col(2)-Ymin)/(Ymax-Ymin); //Maps Y to 0-1 range
col(6)=(col(3)-Zmin)/(Zmax-Zmin); //Maps Z to 0-1 range
col(7)=col(4)/(col(4)+col(5)+col(6)); //Normalize X
col(8)=col(5)/(col(4)+col(5)+col(6)); //Normalize Y
col(9)=col(6)/(col(4)+col(5)+col(6)); //Normalize Z
col(7)[L]$=col(1)[L]$; col(8)[L]$=col(2)[L]$; col(9)[L]$=col(3)[L]$; //Take care Long Names
wks.col7.type=4; //Col(7) as X
wks.col9.type=6; //Col(9) as Z
wks.colsel(9,1); //Highlight Z column
worksheet -P 245 Ternary; //Make a Ternary plot;
if(igtyp==1) layer -i202 %C; //Line+Symbol
else if(igtyp==2) layer -i201 %C; //Scatter
else if(igtyp==3) layer -i200 %C; //Line
//Set formulae for tick labels
String str$, str1$, str2$;
str1$=$(XMax); str2$=$(XMin); str$="x*("+str1$+"-"+str2$+")+"+str2$; layer.x.label.formula$=str$;
str1$=$(YMax); str2$=$(YMin); str$="x*("+str1$+"-"+str2$+")+"+str2$; layer.y2.label.formula$=str$;
str1$=$(ZMax); str2$=$(ZMin); str$="x*("+str1$+"-"+str2$+")+"+str2$; layer.z.label.formula$=str$;
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When you run this script, it asks you to enter the plot type, and the axis ranges.
After mapping the data, the axis tick labels are also mapped by the above formulae.
Hope this helps.
--Hideo Fujii
OriginLab |
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Ternary diagram WITHOUT normalization