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couturier

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Posted - 05/19/2008 :  07:57:32 AM  Show Profile  Edit Topic  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Topic
Origin Version (Select Help-->About Origin): 8 Pro
Operating System: XP pro

There's a reviewer, for a submitted paper, asking me some more details about filters I used. I'm not so sure about the answers to give:

- type of filter: I guess FFT filters are IIR, right ?

- Filter order. I'm used to orders in butterworth, Tchebychev ... filters but don't know how to answer for Origin FFT filters.

- Phase shift of the filter.

Fay_Guo

China
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Posted - 05/20/2008 :  03:40:17 AM  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi,

FFT filter is not IIR, but FIR.
While the five FFT filter types except Low Pass Parabolic are all ideal.

For more imformation about FFT filter, could you see this page of Origin's help online?

http://www.originlab.com/www/helponline/Origin8/en/origin.htm#signal_processing/filtering_algorithm.htm

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact with us.



Thanks,
Fay Guo
Originlab Technical Service
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couturier

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Posted - 05/20/2008 :  03:56:58 AM  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Thanks for the answer.
How about phase shift ? if they are ideal filter, is there absolutely no phaseshift ?
Is there a phaseshift for the low pass parabolic ?

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Deanna

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Posted - 05/21/2008 :  02:23:53 AM  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Within the pass-band, an ideal low-pass filter is characterisized by linear phase. Within the stop-band, the phase can be regarded as meaningless. Therefore, we can say there is no phase shift. Take the ideal low-pass filter for example. When we input an ideal pulse (t), the response is

where wc=w*pi*fc and fc is the cut-off frequency we set in the dialog.

If the input is a shifted pulse

the response will be:


As for the parabolic filter, there is no phase shift for frequencies less than the Pass Frequency. Within the stop band (where frequencies are greater than the Stop Frequency), the amplitude is zero and the phase is meaningless. Between the Pass Frequency and Stop Frequency, there is phase shift. We can calculate the inverse Fourier transform of the following equation:

where wc1=2*pi*fc1, wc2=2*pi*fc1; fc1 is the pass frequency which you set in the dialog and fc2 is the stop frequency.
The result is the response corresponds to an ideal pulse input. Then you can use this result to calculate the phase shift.




Deanna
OriginLab Technical Services

Edited by - Deanna on 05/21/2008 02:31:55 AM
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