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 Calculation of Confidence Intervals when curve fitting in Origin 4.1 and 5.0
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a_user

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Posted - 08/20/1998 :  3:04:00 PM  Show Profile  Edit Topic  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Topic
Origin offers the very useful and rather rare capability in commercial software
to calculate the profile likelihood confidence intervals for parameters in non
linear curve fitting.

This feature is not new in ver. 5 but available already in ver. 3.7 I think
where it was documented; it disappeared in the ver.4 manual and is now
mentioned in the Origin 5.0 Update.wri File:

Curve Fitting
After clicking the Param. Worksheet button in the Generate Results dialog box
(Action:Results), a Parameters worksheet is created containing the fitting
results. LLimit and ULimit are the Lower and Upper Confidence Limits for the
parameter. They are computed by searching for the values of each parameter p
that give an SSR(p) (minimized over the remaining parameters) greater than SSR
by a factor (1+F/(N-P):
SSR(p) = SSR * (1+F/(N-P))
where F=FTable(Confidence, 1, N-P) and SSR is the minimum SSR found during the
fitting session.
The last column, ConfIntv, is Err * T, where Err is the approximate Standard
Error for the parameter and T=TTable((1+Confidence)/2, N-P), the Student t
value.
ULimit and LLimit are the more accurate confidence limits for your parameters.
To change the confidence level (for example, from 95% to 68%), type 0.68 in the
text box associated with the Conf. Band button and then click the Conf. Band
button. Origin displays 68% confidence bands on your graph. Click the Param.
Worksheet button to view the results for a confidence level of 68%. You can
rename the Parameters worksheet reflecting the confidence level, such as
Parameters_68.

Recent calculations I have made for the confidence limits in Origin 5 and ver.
4 showed differences for ULimit and LLimit in all data sets which I have
analysed.

My questions is what are the reasons for that? What has changed in ver.5? Which
results are correct? The formulae given above and those in the manual of ver. 3
don't differ.

a_user

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Posted - 08/20/1998 :  3:07:00 PM  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
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I wonder if you are using weighting. If so, it may be relevant that the method
of calculation of error estimates for fits to weighted data changed after
version 3.7. Version 5 now offers two options, one of which (not the default)
provides the same estimates as did v. 3.7. If this is the explanation, see the
earlier exchanges in this forum initiated by Clemens Woda in January this year.

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a_user

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Posted - 08/20/1998 :  3:08:00 PM  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Confidence Intervals without weighting

I am not using weighting. Both for Origin 4.1 and 5 I did not choose the
weighting option. The default was no weighting since I have used just single
data points without calcaulation of means and standard deviation or other
errors.
Furthermore, my question does not concern the "normal" asymptotic "standard"
errors which was already discussed in the earlier notes mentioned. The subject
are the ML confidence intervals which are calculated in a quite different way.

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a_user

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Posted - 08/20/1998 :  3:10:00 PM  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Response to the Confidence Interval question

To whom it may concern:

The discrepancies between the confidence intervals in Origin 4.1 and Origin 5.0 are as a result of an error in their calculation in Origin 4.1. This error has been corrected in Origin 5.0. In discussing this with an Applications engineer and the programmer specifically responsible for the correction, I was provided with two projects. Both projects took the same "experimental" data (consisting of 100 random numbers following a Gaussian Distribution with sigma = 1 and center 0) and fitted it to the equation Y = P1. However, one project was created in Origin 4.1, while the other was created in Origin 5.0. To see the differences in the results for Ulimit and Llimit and an explanation of why, email me here at Technical Services. I can send you the two projects and the explanation provided.

Please be sure to include your serial number and an explanation of what you are looking for (the two projects and an explanation of confidence intervals) so that we can process your inquiry in a timely manner.

Sincerely,

Ryan Toomey
Technical Services engineer

Microcal Software, Inc.
1 Roundhouse Plaza
Northampton, MA 01060
(413) 586-2013 or (800) 969-7720

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