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oldkerosen
Germany
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 Posted - 02/13/2003 : 07:23:55 AM
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Hi there
I know from this forum and also from my friends that a lot of people are interested to buy a linux port of Origin. Therefore, I thought that instead of struggling to make origin work under wine why should we not post an official request for having a linux port of the program? Of course some people from the company will ask: "if you want ot use origin why don't you switch to windows?" or "there is no market for origin under linux". For those I have two answers:
i) I DO NOT WANT TO USE WINDOWS!!!
ii) In Europe (at least in Germany) and abroad there is a strong opinion now, that schools, universities and other public institutions should switch to OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE (linux, freebsd, etc.), and here there is a need for programs like origin, are you ready to throw away this market? So the question is here ARE YOU READY FOR THE LINUX? because LINUX is ready for the market.
My best regards,
Ovidiu Pascui
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hajo_old
Germany
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Posted - 02/13/2003 : 08:04:48 AM
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Hi All
I'm another one, who would apresheate a linux version verry strongly!
But my suggestion would be to get the knollege and enthusiasm of the linux and origin fans by using the same "system" as Trolltech is doing with its QT-Library product. On linux they made it OpenSource, having all the world as competent testers and initiators of new ideas and on windows you have to pay for the license. An other advantage would be to have a really crossplatform product, where users may extend the software with specialised sollutions for their own or possibly for the need of others.
The Origin people develop the basic platform and the needs "all" users can work with. The user himself can extend this e.g. with specialised input filters or gui enforced extended specialiced functions.
So it would be a very communicative and fast growing and self extending product!
As I said bevore, I would be one of teh first users of an linux product with this comfort and possibilities!
Please comment
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Dipl.-Ing. Hans-Joerg Koch
Siemens VDO, Regensburg
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marko
Germany
112 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2003 : 07:38:31 AM
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Hi,
I remember a similar attempt to guide Microcal into the Linux business. But I remember well that they were not willing to do so and I don't think they'll change their opinion so soon. I guess Origin is simply to much woven into Windows that it could be made platform-independent... If it's not the case, I guess Microcal is not going to give away there know-how to the open source community. No chance!
If you want to use open source data plotting software you'd have to go for GrACE (formerly XMgr) or gnuplot! :) But, unfortunately the output results cannot be compared to what is possible in easy manner with the Windows-Origin. :(
Regards,
Marko
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cpyang
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2003 : 1:45:32 PM
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Has any commercial software with significant Graphical User Interface, like Origin, been ported to Linux? maybe using QT?
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marko
Germany
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Posted - 03/11/2003 : 07:53:29 AM
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To my knowledge there is nothing powerful enough or comparable with Origin available.
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marko
Germany
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hajo_old
Germany
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Posted - 03/12/2003 : 05:32:46 AM
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Hello, All
As I know, the hint to look at scigraphica isn't that bad!
Also I agree totally with Marco! There is nothing equivalent to Origin in the Linux/Open Source world!
Scigraphica has a lot of graphical features, is GTK (used by GNOME) based (not QT) and has not that user-pragrammable features like OriginC is going to be (hopefully).
I'll do some research for finding high pottential (commertial/open Source) Apps using the QT-Toolkit! - Perhaps have a look at the Trolltech's homepage
But I know there are several attempts ongoing building proffessional CAD/CAE Programs/Frameworks with QT (most OpenSource Frameworks - not as ready usable apps)
By using the QT Class library there would be a really good class structure base and it can easyly extended by access of the Origin specific classes e.g. access of the graphics (workbooc) and so on, with standard C/C++ compilers on linux. Building of DLL's (LIBS) would also be very simple. The only thing we (the users) would need are the header files and the libraries to build our own integrated tools to extend Origin.
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Siemens VDO, Regensburg
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hajo_old
Germany
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oregano
American Samoa
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Posted - 04/05/2003 : 2:42:42 PM
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interested to buy a linux port of Origin. Therefore, I thought that instead of struggling to make origin work under wine why should we not post an official request for having a linux port of the program? Of course some people from the company will ask: "if you want
I have been struggling a while and finally I made it work quite nicely with the latest cvs snapshot of wine and one personal modification. It's really usable though there is still on problem which crashes wine. It's related to the mfc42.dll which I guess is some kind of development library from microsft which can be redistributed with other software. So this needs some work - maybe Microcal could use one of their developers on that. But as I said I'm already using Origin on linux for every day work.
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ML
USA
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Posted - 04/10/2003 : 10:08:52 AM
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I have been struggling a while and finally I made it work quite nicely with the latest cvs snapshot of wine and one personal modification. It's really usable though there is still on problem which crashes wine. It's related to the mfc42.dll which I guess is some kind of development library from microsft which can be redistributed with other software. So this needs some work - maybe Microcal could use one of their developers on that. But as I said I'm already using Origin on linux for every day work.
Hi Oregano,
Have you done a lot of printing and export (both raster export, like BMP, JPG, GIF, and vector export, like EPS, PDF, EMF) from Origin on CVS Wine in Linux? What about copy-paste of graphs from Origin into other applications? How's the quality, especially "what-you-get-is-what-you-see" aspect, correct font rendering, line thickness accuracy, etc.? Are there any particular things in Origin that just don't work on Linux with CVS?
Thanks in advance.
ML
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oregano
American Samoa
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Posted - 04/14/2003 : 06:31:12 AM
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I have been struggling a while and finally I made it work quite nicely with the latest cvs snapshot of wine and one personal modification. It's really usable though there is still on problem which crashes wine. It's related to the mfc42.dll which I guess is some kind of development library from microsft which can be redistributed with other software. So this needs some work - maybe Microcal could use one of their developers on that. But as I said I'm already using Origin on linux for every day work.
Hi Oregano,
Have you done a lot of printing and export (both raster export, like BMP, JPG, GIF, and vector export, like EPS, PDF, EMF) from Origin on CVS Wine in Linux? What about copy-paste of graphs from Origin into other applications? How's the quality, especially "what-you-get-is-what-you-see" aspect, correct font rendering, line thickness accuracy, etc.? Are there any particular things in Origin that just don't work on Linux with CVS?
Thanks in advance.
ML
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ML
USA
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Posted - 04/28/2003 : 10:06:00 AM
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Hi Oregano,
You appear to have replied to my post on 4/14/2003, but nothing except a quote showed up.
Thanks.
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oregano
American Samoa
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Posted - 05/21/2003 : 08:01:52 AM
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Hi Oregano,
You appear to have replied to my post on 4/14/2003, but nothing except a quote showed up.
Thanks.
ML
oops. Here's what I said:
I'm using only the "print to file" and EPS export functions. Both of them work as bad/good as Origin on Windows does: wrong calculated bounding boxes, wrong paper orientation, reproducibility low :). When exporting EPS files you have to make sure that ghostscript understands all fonts. I'm usually only producing 2D line and scatter plots with some annotations and for this purpose Origin with wine is perfect though a little slow. There are some things that don't work and cause wine to crash (e.g. loading the tutorial files). These crashes are always related to some Microsoft development dlls (mfc42..) so it's not very reasonable to hope for a fix in near future as long as anybody compiles these dlls with winelib I guess.
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lbcarval
USA
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 4:13:04 PM
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It is incredible that they have not made version NOT FREE OF ORIGIN FOR LINUX. We linux users and lovers recognize the power of origin, we are willing to pay the very same price as the one for windows, etc. BUT THEY DO NOT CLOSE THIS GAP !!
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adeprot
France
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Posted - 03/04/2005 : 8:16:12 PM
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Hello!
You can try LabPlot, it's not so bad. |
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request for porting origin to linux