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tlkurth

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Posted - 05/03/2004 :  4:35:28 PM  Show Profile  Edit Topic  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Topic
I have a data set that I would like to fit in two ways. The two ways consist of exchanging the x and y axes. When I fit the same function to each plot I get two different solutions. This is due to the fact that the deviation in one axis is different than the deviation in the other. Is there a simple way in Origin to modify the error function so that the same result is obtained regardless of which axis is independent? i.e. the error in x and y are both considered or the error in x instead of y. Simply fitting to both plots simultaneously will not work as the ultimate goal is to fit a more complex function in only the x-y exchanged form.

tlkurth

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Posted - 05/03/2004 :  5:55:22 PM  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
I'm not sure. I'm familiar with deconvolution methods utilizing factor analysis but my problem is much simpler.

I'm trying to fit multiple data sets with a Langmuir equation: y=kx/(1+kx,) which is easy. The FFG model is an extension of this model: y=kx*exp(by)/(1+kx*exp(by)), also easy. This can be rearranged to get x=f(y). To obtain consistent fits utilizing each of the two models for different data sets it is important to have a consistent error function (chi^2). However, the error function for the fit to x=f(y) depends on the error on the x-axis. The chi^2 for y=f(x) depends on the error on the y-axis. Nearly horizontal and vertical trends in the data make the difference between calculated errors, i.e. the error surfaces to be minimized, quite large.

If there were an error function (2-dimensional chi^2) that included the x-axis and y-axis deviation the resulting fit could be identical.

Thanks,
Todd

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If my understanding is correct, I think you're looking for the "factor analysis", which Origin corrently doesn't have. The factor analysis tries to reduce dimensionality - in your case from 2 to 1. The method is often used in social sciences, but is it useful in your field, too?

Hideo Fujii
OriginLab Corp.




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Hideo Fujii

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Posted - 05/03/2004 :  6:25:10 PM  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
I think that the factor analysis assumes the linear relationship. So, obviously it is NOT what you are looking for. Not sure, but programming may help??

Hideo Fujii
OriginLab Corp.

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easwar

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Posted - 05/04/2004 :  2:56:49 PM  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Todd,

Our fitting/minimization routines currently only support error in y. We will consider supporting error in x in a future version. Thank you for reporting this issue.

Easwar
OriginLab

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